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	<title>Comments on: Coolest Flash demo - EVER! Flash video on 3D!!!</title>
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	<description>Mike Downey is the Principal Evangelist for Platform Business Development at Adobe Systems and focuses on Adobe's platform technologies including AIR, Flash, and Flex. This is his personal blog. The views expressed on this site are his and his alone and do not necessarily reflect the views of Adobe Systems, it's employees or partners in any way.</description>
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		<title>By: klira</title>
		<link>http://madowney.com/blog/2007/02/28/coolest-flash-demo-ever-flash-video-on-3d/#comment-15702</link>
		<dc:creator>klira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 21:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: blackbox</title>
		<link>http://madowney.com/blog/2007/02/28/coolest-flash-demo-ever-flash-video-on-3d/#comment-7154</link>
		<dc:creator>blackbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jon Austenaa</title>
		<link>http://madowney.com/blog/2007/02/28/coolest-flash-demo-ever-flash-video-on-3d/#comment-3064</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Austenaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 07:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh forgot to mention, the CPU usage also gave it away, quite horrendous for such simple stuff. PCs nowadays use very much power and often noisy so it would be nice if Flash could get direct hardware access through OpenGL calls. Using openGL would be an argument for the environment :)

Of course, Microsoft wouldn't want that, the more CPU programs uses, the more new PCs sells, the more OEM copys with Windows Microsoft sells. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh forgot to mention, the CPU usage also gave it away, quite horrendous for such simple stuff. PCs nowadays use very much power and often noisy so it would be nice if Flash could get direct hardware access through OpenGL calls. Using openGL would be an argument for the environment <img src='http://madowney.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Of course, Microsoft wouldn&#8217;t want that, the more CPU programs uses, the more new PCs sells, the more OEM copys with Windows Microsoft sells. <img src='http://madowney.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Jon Austenaa</title>
		<link>http://madowney.com/blog/2007/02/28/coolest-flash-demo-ever-flash-video-on-3d/#comment-3061</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Austenaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 22:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the demo and was hoping it was a movie of a hardware accellerated Flash demo, but the cheap filtering and low-res video revealed this was just another software flash.

Why not dream of Flash with OpenGL accelleration? OpenGL actually benefits from Vistas server-client virtualization of graphics accelleration hardware

http://www.opengl.org/pipeline/article/vol003_9/

After all, hardware accelleration heaven can lead to amazing things
http://clipaday.com/videos/ridiculous-image-technology-coming</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the demo and was hoping it was a movie of a hardware accellerated Flash demo, but the cheap filtering and low-res video revealed this was just another software flash.</p>
<p>Why not dream of Flash with OpenGL accelleration? OpenGL actually benefits from Vistas server-client virtualization of graphics accelleration hardware</p>
<p><a href="http://www.opengl.org/pipeline/article/vol003_9/" rel="nofollow">http://www.opengl.org/pipeline/article/vol003_9/</a></p>
<p>After all, hardware accelleration heaven can lead to amazing things<br />
<a href="http://clipaday.com/videos/ridiculous-image-technology-coming" rel="nofollow">http://clipaday.com/videos/ridiculous-image-technology-coming</a></p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Agesilas</title>
		<link>http://madowney.com/blog/2007/02/28/coolest-flash-demo-ever-flash-video-on-3d/#comment-2598</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel Agesilas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 05:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike &#38; Tink,

Boy was I wrong about Apollo!!! LOL Mike was I repentant enough at FITC'07. Anyway I 'm knee deep in Apollo development for the Saffron UML tool I've been working and I can't believe what I have been missing. You guys definitely scored a convert here... I can't believe I drank All of that M$ cool-aid!! LOL... anyways keep it rocking! Apollo ROCKS!!!!!

Cheers,
Sam ( the prodigal son )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &amp; Tink,</p>
<p>Boy was I wrong about Apollo!!! LOL Mike was I repentant enough at FITC&#8217;07. Anyway I &#8216;m knee deep in Apollo development for the Saffron UML tool I&#8217;ve been working and I can&#8217;t believe what I have been missing. You guys definitely scored a convert here&#8230; I can&#8217;t believe I drank All of that M$ cool-aid!! LOL&#8230; anyways keep it rocking! Apollo ROCKS!!!!!</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Sam ( the prodigal son )</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Agesilas</title>
		<link>http://madowney.com/blog/2007/02/28/coolest-flash-demo-ever-flash-video-on-3d/#comment-2033</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel Agesilas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tink,

Btw... I am a Flash dev. I Have been a serious flash dev for over 8 years. So I'm definetely not missing the point on this one and while it may be a little difficult to believe there are those of us who have hardcore Computer Science background and still choose to deal with flash (despite it's many limitation). We are just interested in seeing the platform catch up to our abilities as developers.

Cheers,
Sam
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tink,</p>
<p>Btw&#8230; I am a Flash dev. I Have been a serious flash dev for over 8 years. So I&#8217;m definetely not missing the point on this one and while it may be a little difficult to believe there are those of us who have hardcore Computer Science background and still choose to deal with flash (despite it&#8217;s many limitation). We are just interested in seeing the platform catch up to our abilities as developers.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Sam</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Agesilas</title>
		<link>http://madowney.com/blog/2007/02/28/coolest-flash-demo-ever-flash-video-on-3d/#comment-2032</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel Agesilas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 05:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

I agree the Flash has a much broader penetration. It runs on multiple desktops which is a fantastic achievement. However... What I find amusing is that you guys have already solved the performance problem. The Shockwave player does a lot of things in the realm of hardware acceleration that if used within flash could really make flash a contender against WPF. Sure WPF needs some work (speically in the hardware arena). But don't you think Microsoft knows this? Of course they do and they are working on making WPF better and more efficient so it can run on just run of the mill hardware... and at that point Flash will start becoming more and more irrelevant. Look, I don't want to see Flash go... but I think you guys really need to up the momentum. I see it everyday... Experienced flash developers checking out WPF, why? Because they have more options and more choices to create interactive experiences. And while Flash may seem like the logical choice now, there are no guarantees in life and underestimating WPF and WPF/E could mean serious problems for Adobe and Flash.

cheers,
Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>I agree the Flash has a much broader penetration. It runs on multiple desktops which is a fantastic achievement. However&#8230; What I find amusing is that you guys have already solved the performance problem. The Shockwave player does a lot of things in the realm of hardware acceleration that if used within flash could really make flash a contender against WPF. Sure WPF needs some work (speically in the hardware arena). But don&#8217;t you think Microsoft knows this? Of course they do and they are working on making WPF better and more efficient so it can run on just run of the mill hardware&#8230; and at that point Flash will start becoming more and more irrelevant. Look, I don&#8217;t want to see Flash go&#8230; but I think you guys really need to up the momentum. I see it everyday&#8230; Experienced flash developers checking out WPF, why? Because they have more options and more choices to create interactive experiences. And while Flash may seem like the logical choice now, there are no guarantees in life and underestimating WPF and WPF/E could mean serious problems for Adobe and Flash.</p>
<p>cheers,<br />
Sam</p>
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		<title>By: Tink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL sheesh you took a tough time on this one huh Mike.

I think what people are missing is that a lot of people who aren't neccessarily Flash Devs would read you blog so it's good that your linking up examples like this for people outside the Flash community to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL sheesh you took a tough time on this one huh Mike.</p>
<p>I think what people are missing is that a lot of people who aren&#8217;t neccessarily Flash Devs would read you blog so it&#8217;s good that your linking up examples like this for people outside the Flash community to see.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Agesilas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samuel Agesilas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 00:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HAHA You have got to be freaking kidding me. Big Deal!!! Has anyone at adobe actually seen WPF. Here is a screenshot from there PDC Demo...

http://www.winsupersite.com/images/showcase/pdc2005_day0_02.jpg

They are running a 3D sphere FULL of video content that is actually playing will the 3d camara moves around. WPF makes flash look like a scooter compared to a dragster. Don't get me wrong I'm a Mac user and have no love for windows. But credit must be given where credit is deserved. And WPF runs rings around Flash. So instead of being awed at a little demo you guys should get with the program and really take Microsoft's threat seriously. Before Adobe becomes the next microsoft victim.

Cheers,
Sam


[md] Yes, you can do very cool things with WPF, Vista, and high-end hardware if you leverage WPF's hardware acceleration. This demo is cool because it runs on every major operating system, including four more versions of Windows than WPF supports (and Linux). Oh, and over 700 million people already have the Player required to render this. How many people have Vista with WPF support and adequate hardware again? [/md]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAHA You have got to be freaking kidding me. Big Deal!!! Has anyone at adobe actually seen WPF. Here is a screenshot from there PDC Demo&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.winsupersite.com/images/showcase/pdc2005_day0_02.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.winsupersite.com/images/showcase/pdc2005_day0_02.jpg</a></p>
<p>They are running a 3D sphere FULL of video content that is actually playing will the 3d camara moves around. WPF makes flash look like a scooter compared to a dragster. Don&#8217;t get me wrong I&#8217;m a Mac user and have no love for windows. But credit must be given where credit is deserved. And WPF runs rings around Flash. So instead of being awed at a little demo you guys should get with the program and really take Microsoft&#8217;s threat seriously. Before Adobe becomes the next microsoft victim.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Sam</p>
<p>[md] Yes, you can do very cool things with WPF, Vista, and high-end hardware if you leverage WPF&#8217;s hardware acceleration. This demo is cool because it runs on every major operating system, including four more versions of Windows than WPF supports (and Linux). Oh, and over 700 million people already have the Player required to render this. How many people have Vista with WPF support and adequate hardware again? [/md]</p>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is definitely a very nice demo, specially the pseudo sound3D detail and the fact that there are two hot Flash topics implicated, video (FLV) and 3D (Papervision), makes the piece a little bit more special for us. (us= flash developers)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is definitely a very nice demo, specially the pseudo sound3D detail and the fact that there are two hot Flash topics implicated, video (FLV) and 3D (Papervision), makes the piece a little bit more special for us. (us= flash developers)</p>
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